In this episode, we sit down with Chris Cobb, the longtime owner of the iconic Nashville venue Exit/In, to discuss the current state of independent music venues in the city and beyond. With over 20 years of experience in the industry, Cobb offers an insider’s perspective on the challenges independent venues face—from rising property values and the economic fallout of the pandemic to legal battles and the need for greater collaboration between developers, local government, and the music community. This conversation is an invaluable resource for venue owners, artists, and anyone passionate about the future of live music in Nashville and around the country.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

• Chris Cobb's Personal Journey with Exit/In
  Chris Cobb shares his unique journey from starting as a buyer and general manager at Exit/In to becoming a full owner in 2019. He reflects on the highs and lows of managing one of Nashville’s most beloved independent venues, and how he navigated the challenges of losing the venue’s lease at the end of 2023.
• The Impact of the Pandemic on Nashville’s Live Music Scene
  The pandemic hit Nashville’s independent venues especially hard, as many businesses were forced to close while new construction projects continued unabated. Cobb discusses how this uneven playing field, combined with rising real estate costs, put an immense financial strain on local venues, making it harder than ever for independent venues to survive.
• Legal Battles and Trademark Disputes
  Cobb dives into the ongoing legal challenges he faces with the trademark of Exit/In. After filing a federal trademark for the venue, Cobb has been involved in a lengthy legal dispute with the new property owners, which could extend well into 2024. Learn about the complexities of intellectual property issues for venue owners and how this impacts the larger music community.
• Successful Public-Private Partnerships and Long-Term Solutions
  One of Cobb’s key points in the discussion is the importance of public-private partnerships to preserve creative spaces. He shares examples from cities like Austin, where long-term real estate leases have been secured to protect independent venues. Cobb advocates for similar strategies in Nashville to ensure the survival of venues that serve as cultural cornerstones.
• The Role of Advocacy and Industry Collaboration
  Cobb highlights his current work in advocating for independent venues and booking shows. He explains how grassroots organizations like D Tour are helping to connect independent promoters and venues to ensure mutual support and collaboration in securing bookings and increasing visibility for emerging artists. In addition, Cobb talks about the formation of groups like NIVA (National Independent Venue Association), which have proven instrumental in uniting venues across the country to fight for their survival.
• The Challenges Faced by New Venue Owners Today
  For those considering opening new venues, Cobb provides valuable insights into the obstacles facing new venue owners, including skyrocketing rents, economic uncertainty, and the need for a clear vision. He emphasizes the importance of focusing on community-building and staying true to the mission of supporting live music in a sustainable way.
• The Importance of Human Connection in the Music Industry
  At the heart of Cobb’s work is his passion for music and his commitment to supporting young, emerging artists. He speaks candidly about how, despite the challenges and pressures of capitalism, human connection and a deep love for the art of music continue to drive his efforts. Cobb shares his belief that venues should be spaces where the community can come together to support one another and celebrate the beauty of live performance.